Wednesday, October 1, 2014
10:00 AM
Elder of Ziyon
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I mentioned in the last post about Mairav Zonszein's insulting and inaccurate NYT op-ed last week.
At Tablet, Liel Leibovitz wrote a response that demolished Zonszein's examples that she claimed proved that Israeli society suppresses (leftist) dissent.
As I noted, the Zonszein op-ed wasn't a criticism as much as an insult. Leibovitz's response definitely reflects that he was insulted, and it insults the New York Times (and Zonszein) in turn for publishing an argument that can be so easily dismantled with simple facts and many provable counter-examples. But Leibovitz at least backs up his angry reaction with facts.
The Twitter thread that followed between leftist writer Lisa Goldman, Zonszein and the New York Times' Robert Mackey is a truly great example of echo chamber thinking.
OK, let's go through the logic.
Lisa Goldman and Robert Mackey are idiots. And I just proved it with that very statement.
You see, if Goldman and Mackey respond to that statement with "dismissive contempt," that is actually validation. If they contemptuously dismiss it by ignoring it, that is actually validation. If theytry to prove me wrong, then it shows that I "touched a nerve" - which is actually validation.
So according to the brilliant Goldman and Mackey, there is no possible response to a baseless insult that can disprove it.
Of course, that logic doesn't make sense - unless you are Lisa Goldman and Robert Mackey, which just goes to prove that they are idiots!
QED.
The irony, of course, is that this entire thread is one of "dismissive contempt" for an emotional but devastating rebuttal of Zonszein's article - which again, according to the participants own appaling "logic", proves Leibovitz is correct!
In the real world, is based on facts. Zonszein's facts were shown to be quite wrong. Not one of her pals in this thread could manage to disprove a single one of Leibovitz' points. Mackey concludes that "there is nothing of substance in these partisan ramblings."
Projection much?
Goldman at least gets something right. There is a pattern that emerges, and that pattern brings clarity - from the side that doesn't bother to answer real criticism.
It should be troubling to the New York Times management that Mackey so cavalierly dismissed well-documented criticism of the piece. It shows, yet again, that the New York Times is as biased as possible, truth be damned.
(h/t Brightside)
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Posted By Elder of Ziyon to Elder Of Ziyon - Israel News at 10/01/2014 10:00:00 AM
At Tablet, Liel Leibovitz wrote a response that demolished Zonszein's examples that she claimed proved that Israeli society suppresses (leftist) dissent.
As I noted, the Zonszein op-ed wasn't a criticism as much as an insult. Leibovitz's response definitely reflects that he was insulted, and it insults the New York Times (and Zonszein) in turn for publishing an argument that can be so easily dismantled with simple facts and many provable counter-examples. But Leibovitz at least backs up his angry reaction with facts.
The Twitter thread that followed between leftist writer Lisa Goldman, Zonszein and the New York Times' Robert Mackey is a truly great example of echo chamber thinking.
OK, let's go through the logic.
Lisa Goldman and Robert Mackey are idiots. And I just proved it with that very statement.
You see, if Goldman and Mackey respond to that statement with "dismissive contempt," that is actually validation. If they contemptuously dismiss it by ignoring it, that is actually validation. If theytry to prove me wrong, then it shows that I "touched a nerve" - which is actually validation.
So according to the brilliant Goldman and Mackey, there is no possible response to a baseless insult that can disprove it.
Of course, that logic doesn't make sense - unless you are Lisa Goldman and Robert Mackey, which just goes to prove that they are idiots!
QED.
The irony, of course, is that this entire thread is one of "dismissive contempt" for an emotional but devastating rebuttal of Zonszein's article - which again, according to the participants own appaling "logic", proves Leibovitz is correct!
In the real world, is based on facts. Zonszein's facts were shown to be quite wrong. Not one of her pals in this thread could manage to disprove a single one of Leibovitz' points. Mackey concludes that "there is nothing of substance in these partisan ramblings."
Projection much?
Goldman at least gets something right. There is a pattern that emerges, and that pattern brings clarity - from the side that doesn't bother to answer real criticism.
It should be troubling to the New York Times management that Mackey so cavalierly dismissed well-documented criticism of the piece. It shows, yet again, that the New York Times is as biased as possible, truth be damned.
(h/t Brightside)
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Posted By Elder of Ziyon to Elder Of Ziyon - Israel News at 10/01/2014 10:00:00 AM
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